Thursday, 25 June 2026

A Posting, Full On, Rye (4)

Starting, Stopping, Passing, Crossing

Any knowledgeable rail enthusiast would look at the above picture whilst shedding a tear or two at the passing of Rye's traditional signal box. The ding of the bells, the clang of the point and signal levers and the gentle hiss of the wires between box and signal are all gone.

But, if so, why has the signal box been repainted in traditional Southern Railway green and cream?
And why are the windows white!

Then there is this ...
... a posh Walkway from Platform 1 to posh cabin!

Surely this is more than nostalgic preservation? There is even a proper bridge across the drainage ditch at the foot of the posh steps.
Back in the day, there wasn't even a ditch!

If you were invited in to the hallowed world of the signalman, you would espy the traditional operating levers ...
... but most are painted white denoting that the levers are no longer in use. 

Rye station used to have a goods yard ...
... for which those levers woud be necessary.

But as well as traditional signal box appurtenances, you might see this ...
... a collection of buttons and tv screens. Furthermore, if you look closely, you may spot that the tv sets are showing views of two level crossings.

We are told that the box is in operation seven days a week throughout the hours when trains are running.

At both ends of the station, the passing loop reverts to single track ...
... to be followed immediately by a level crossing.
Here they are on a chunk of street map.
And here they are courtesy of Google Earth. Rye Hill is to the east ...
... and Ferry Road to the west.
With trains passing every hour and the need to manage both level crossings, signalling could easily be a bit tricky.

There will be red/green colour light signals to protect the level crossings from approaching trains, then 'starter' signals on the platforms will protect the crossing gates when trains leave.
There will be pressure to open the barriers for road traffic as soon as practically. There could easily be two openings at both ends during the time that trains are passing.

Apparently a cheery signal man ...
... can make a better job of the decision making than a shed full of electronics at Ashford.
There is hope for humanity yet!

It is worth remembering that, back in the day, both level crossings would have their own crossing keepers box ...
... as above at Ferry Road. These boxes would be mechanically interlocked with signals and the diddy signalbox seen in the distance above.

By The Way ...
... there is no ferry on Ferry Road. There was once, when the River Rother was navigable by bigger sailing ships with tall masts.
The engraving below is titled "Rye from the Ferry".
Likewise the first railway crossing was via a swing bridge ...
... later replaced by a fixed span. Today's crossing is reduced to single track, just half of the hefty girder bridge.
Rye is a fascinating station with a proud and varied public transport history. Bearing in mind the caff/florists, a visit to town and station would be stimulating in the extreme.
Ancient readers may remember a TV series called Mapp and Lucia.
It was set in Rye!

Talking of Mapp ...

  Next Convalescent Cartography blog : Fri 26 June 

Wednesday, 24 June 2026

A Posting, Full On, Rye (3)

Above About Your Station

The station building at Rye is a splendid edifice on the Platform 2 (for Hastings etc) side of the tracks. To the right of the main building is a caff ...
... which has changed hands since the picture was taken. As well as the usual additions to a cup if coffee ...
... i.e. lots of gorgeous cakes ...
... the business also doubles as a florist ...
... with lots of gorgeous blooms!

As you approach the station via Station Approach, you will observe the town's main bus stops and time point.
Services are in the hands of Stagecoach ...
... purchaser of the East Kent company whose vehicles we see un years gone by, resting between duties beside the station building ...
... and using the same layby as does Stagecoach today.
Maidstone and District appeared as well.
fbb has failed abysmally to identify those route numbers! Here an M & D Single decker awaits its next departure.
Maidstone and District?
Even stranger in colour! It used to be with the Dengate Bus Company which operated several services un the Hastungs and Rye area ...
... usung an eclectic seleection of vehicles!

Today, through the central portico of Rye station, you enter a neat and tidy ticket office cum waiting area before continuing on to Platform 2 for trains to Hastings etc.
The platforms are staggered ...
... now linked by a footbridge.

Therein lies a tale. The line between Ore and Ashford was listed for closure under the Beeching Report. A combination of ferocious local opposition and relatively poor road links meant that the line survived but was later reduced to single track for part of its length.

With the arrival of the Hastings electrification came the proposal to add conductor rail to the Marshlink line.

So a footbridge was added for safety reasons ...
... which (fbb guesswork!) duly replaced a foot crossing.

The Marshlink line was not electrified!

There is a lengthy walking route from the station building via the car and coach park ...
... over the level crossing ...
... and back to Platform 1.
fbb is sure that the worthy citizens of Rye would demand a foot crossing and later rejoice (?) in the installation of the footbridge.

Platform 1 has just a basic shelter, but a shelter with character.
In the good old bad old days, such a facility would have routinely been demolished and replaced by a 'bus' shelter. So it is to the credit if whoever makes these far reaching management decisions that the characterful shelter has been fully refurbished.
Nice!

Tomorrow, fbb will look at signals and try to answer two cutting edge questions. 

Why, in the 21st century and with the benefit if modern electronics, does Rye appear to have a working manual signal box?

And why oh why at Rye (say I), are signals not controlled by the mega and hugely expensive signalling centre at Ashford.
They've got all the clever stuff there!


Well Done Stagecoach
fbb was revising his poor knowledge of current bus services at Rye when he came across this from Stagecoach.

Route 100 runs hourly between Conquest Hospital (Hastings), Rye, Lydd and Romney with a Sunday variant numbered 101.
There is no Saturday service (see timetable heading)!

Really?

The existence of a highlighted 'Saturday only' journey suggests that the table should be headed Monday to Saturday.

Whoops!

Convalescent Cartography
fbb has been spending some time creating a map. It is probably the most challenging design project the old bloke has ever attempted.
It is utterly purposeless but no equivalent exists - anywhere.

More in due course.

  Next Rye signals blog : Thursday 25th June 

Tuesday, 23 June 2026

A Posting, Full On, Rye (2)

 Tunnel Vision

When a youthful fbb used to go on Crusader holidays on the Isle of Wight, he found Waterloo station fascinating and a bit scary. Back then, green worms (Southern Region electric trains) would slide and wiggle on the tracks approaching the station. The lad hoped that the wiggles would not bring the carriages into crunching contact.

But everything, it seemed, was green caterpillars whizzing to and fro. You might then think that everything south of the Thames was electric. 

Even today, fbb's local line at Axminster is still diesel ...
... and very much in need of some new trains.

The colours were brighter under Stagecoach ownership but they have reverted to dull and duller c/o First.

The main line between London and Hastings was a late electrification candidate. Before being plugged in, it was operated by diesel electric units ...
... later resplendent in blue and grey.
These units were somewhat thinner than standard because of restricted clearance in some of the tunnels.

But, eventually, the third rail power came along, the tunnels were up-fettled and normal thickness trains were used.

They were even given a special livery called 'jaffa cake' by enthusiasts.
... and were appropriately branded.

Single Vision
Which left just one bit of line in the area without the electric.
Trains between Hastings and Ashford remained diesel electric, in various liveries ...
... on class 207 stock.
Today's equivalent are from the class 170 stable ...
... running as two or three car sets.

The units run through from Eastbourne via Hastings to Ashford providing a clock face hourly frequency.
In passing, note the times of trains at Rye above, xx47/xx49; and in the opposite direction below, xx46/xx48.
Yes, fans of railway operation, trains cross at Rye.
They need to, because this part of the route is single track!

Tourism Vision
Although, practically, only the section between Hastings and Ashford was originally branded "Marshlink" ...
... publicity tends to extol the virtues of the whole route. This full colour illustrated map is an example.

Here we see Eastbourne to Hastings ...
You would have a long walk to Herstmonceaux and a connecting train to Battle.

Then from Hastings to Ashford.
Again, best of British for a connection to Tenterden for the Kent and East Sussex Railway. 
There would be an equal challenge to make it to the Romney Hythe and Dymchurch line.
If you wish, you might even connect with a Eurostar at Ashford!
But Eurostar won't allow you to go from Ashford to Bruxelles!

Oddly, Rye Station would appear to have a signal box!
fbb will adumbrate tomorrow.

  Next Rye station blog : Weds 24th June