Wednesday, 29 April 2026

It Seemed A Good Idea ...

 ... At The Time!

When fbb bought his Irish Railways Mark 2d coach, he knew slightly less than nothing about railways in the Republic. Now he is overwhelmed with information.

The Mark 2d (as fbb's model) were ordered in 1972 and in service quickly as they were to a British Railways design and built in the UK.

At much the same time a complementary fleet of Mark 2a/2b coaches was created using gash vehicles from British Rail.
There were livery variations ...
... on the Mark 2d coaches with one notable variant being grey roofs or orange roofs.

fbb decided to compare his putchase with reality and would have liked to compare the Irish model with a Mark 2d model from the UK. But your tight-fisted blogger has never bought a Mark 2d because such coaches are long and look ridiculous lurching round sharp No 2 radius corners.

But he did have a Hornby R896 Mark 3 Scotrail coach ...
... a wrongly labelled sale item. It might make an interesting comparison with the proviso that Hornby has subsequently upgraded this model. 

Oxford Rail also makes a Mark 3 ...
... better than Hornby's, both old and new; more like reality.
So we begin a comparison. 

fbb's Hornby model has clear plastic body sides with the livery painted on.
The Irish Mark 2d has more detail in the fenestration and around the doors.
Although 'flush', there is realistic depth and a proper moulded frame.

There is a nod to realism in bogies and doors from Hornby ...
... much better on the Orange with added handrails.
We don't have comparable underparts from Hornby, but the mix of bits and pieces on the Irish model matches the major differences between the two full sized side views, one ...
... with large  circular fan ...
... and the other with four boxes of mystery ...
... correctly modelled on fbb's acquisition.
Both manufacturers have provided an interior. Hornby's  is what you might call basic ...
... but so is that from Ireland.
The designer has, perhaps, gone a bit OTT with the orange plastic, but the seats are roughly the right shape if not colour!
And where are the OO scale curtains?

You might suppose that fbb could get in there and paint his interiors more accurately?

Sorry, folks, not with his shaky left hand!!

Anyway, with those shallow windows, you can hardly see any seats and tables. fbb found the innards very hard to photograph!

The Hornby bogies just clip into the body ...
... and clip out unpredictably!

From Ireland we have neater couplings and screws for the bogies.

The Mark 2d is marketed by Murphy Models.
Murphy Models has been involved in the model railway business since the 1970s, originally retailing Hornby, Lima, Arnold-N and Jouef amongst others from a shop in Dublin, Ireland. Although the shop is long gone, our interest continues and we now manufacture models and supply to retail stockists. We do not supply directly to the public.

Due to the lack of detailed ready to run models of actual Irish locomotives and rolling stock up to the late 1990's, Murphy Models commenced production of the highest quality and most detailed Irish railway prototypes in OO scale. Thus far we have produced ready to run models of the GM Class 121, 141, 181, 071 & 201 locomotives as well as Craven Coaches & Mark IID Coaches.

The intention is to have a locomotive and coach portfolio that spans from the late 1950s to present. 

Of course Murphy does not actually manufacture its models. But then neither does anyone else!

P.S. A Mystery
What is that centre door on a version of an Irish Mark 2d?
And it is on one of Mr Murphy's models as well!
Suely that will damage the integrity of the structural bodywork 'tube'. Is it because the coach is a 'composite' with both First and Standard seating areas?

  Next ''On The Edge" blog : Thur 30th April 

Tuesday, 28 April 2026

Making A Marque ...

... Ireland versus UK! (mini-blog)

In yesterday's  blog, fbb wrote that The Republic Of Ireland is, at one time, the same as its former UK buddy; yet sometimes different! 

That green coach ...
.. is very similar to the British Railways Mark 1 above. Mark 1 coaches had a chassis and a framed body.

Then along came the BR Mark 2 in various varieties as 2a, 2b and 2c.
This marque had no chassis with its strength being derived from the long tube of its upper parts. The type can be spotted by its rounded corners.

Irish Railways has similar body styles, as here in the orange and black.
Back this side of the water, BR's cunning plan was that the Mark 2 would bei retro-fitted with full air conditioning. In the end, this did not happen, but Mark 2d, e and f did materialise with sealed windows and aircon.
To avoid possible for confusion, note the assorted bits and bobs bolted to the tube of the coach on BR (above) and Irish versions.
Also note the door handles. All Mark 2 vehicles had slam doors.

Mark 3s were best known as the teaching stock of the High Speed Train (HST).
They, too, had slam doors, but differed from Mark 2s in having a big slab of underparts all locked away in a long tin box.

Ditto for the oranges.

Along came Mark 4!
These are similar to their immediate predecessors but now we have power doors - look no door handles!

Ireland has Mark 4 vehicles but they are not orange!
The livery has hints of that earlier all-over shamrock green. Also door handles are decidedly deficient.

In the UK we now have Mark 5s, examples being with Scottish Sleeper 'day' vehicles ..
... and the loco-hauled push-pull sets for TransPennine.
Here endeth the lesson on BR and IR similar coach types - hardly an in depth study, but a reasonable introduction to the orange Irish vehicle you easily excitable blogger has purchased.

So which marque of Irish orange has fbb acquired?
Suffice it to say, the coach which fbb would have preferred cost neary twice as much.

Potato Or Meat!
An fbb snack review; ideal for train journeys!

No 3 son came across this product on-line and liked the brand name! His email implied that the products were flavoured crisps.

20 bags at 93p each makes for expensive crisps but the bags do contain 35g. Normal bags of crisps weigh just 24g.

But hold fast, there. The company also sells crisps ...
... in this case £1 for a 40g bag.

But the Gruntled product is listed under 'Meat' snacks ...
... and one of the five Gruntled flavours is ...
... pork scratchings - definitely fbb's snack of choice (and with at least 5000 calories a bag!). So Gruntled flavours are all versions of the delectable pork scratchings tasty bite!

Like No 3 son, fbb loves the name.

A Belgian acquaintance of fbb once queried a sad omission from the varied but vexed panoply of the English language. Why, she asked, can you be disgruntled in England but you can never be gruntled?

Maybe the arruval of flavoured pork scratchings will encourage the use if the missing word, presumably meaning a state of contentment with things.

fbb is very gruntled with this particular blog.

Sadly, and steadily salivating, fbb must now return to the world of orange. Well 'orange' is healthy, after all.

Snippet
For those who thought plastic kits were for kids! Here is a 3D printed model at 1/16 scale. 

That's big!
The advertiser, Jadlam Models, tells us it is named "Old Duch".

It isn't .
The real thing is called "Old Dutch", as in thr cockney song.

The kit costs a modest £300.

Yikes!

 Next Irish Orange blog : Weds 29th April 

Monday, 27 April 2026

Green, Maroon & Blue, Orange & Black

PLEASE NOTE : It will probably be necessary to publish some mini-blogs this week due to pressures of other events, necessitous domestic activity and preparation for Fellowship meetings this coming weekend. Oh, yes; and old age!!!

105 Years of History



In 1921 part of the United Kingdom became totally disunited. Under an Act of the UK parliament, The Irish Free State a k a The Republic of Ireland came into being. The tensions that caused this momentous split still resurface in Ireland from time to time.

In some ways, Ireland is different from the rest of the UK. In other ways things look very much the same as across the sea. 

Rail transport immediately exposes a difference. The gauge of the railways throughout the Island is 5 feet 3 inches, 4.5 inches broader than the rest if the UK.

The Railway Regulation (Gauge) Act 1846 or the Regulating the Gauge of Railways Act 1846 or the Gauge of Railways Act 1846 was an act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, that was designed to standardise railway tracks. It was granted royal assent on 18 August 1846, and mandated that the track gauge – which was the distance between the two running rails' inner faces – of 4 feet 812 inches to be the standard for Great Britain and 5 feet 3 inches to be the standard for Ireland.

As far as fbb can gather, the anomaly arose from the fact that an early Irish railway engineer chose 1600mm (rather than non-metric 5'3") for his first lines.

It Started With A Model ...

fbb has bought one if these for Peterville Quarry Railway ...
... because he liked the colour orange. More of this expenditure later. But the old buffer realised that his ignorance of anything and everything public transport on The Island of Ireland was limited to omnibological snippets from Belfast (UK) and Dublin (Republic).

Railway coaches in the Republic were orange for some time, but in the past were a glorious shade of green ...

... very different from UK's Southern malachite ...
... and the more sombre BR diesel unit green.
Some Irish Railway coaches were a darker shade ...
... although fbb has failed (abysmally!!) to find details of when, where and why.

He did, however, find these in model form ...
... which found themselves on the "Enterprise" services between Dublin and Belfast ...
... operated jointly with Northern Ireland Railways (NIR).
The Parent Company of much of the public transport in the Republic is CIE ...
Córas Iompair Éireann (CIÉ), was founded on 1st January 1945 under the Transport Act 1944.  It united the Great Southern Railways (GSR) and the Dublin United Tramway Company (DUTC). The GSR operated rail, bus and lorry services.  It had come into existence in 1925 when all the railway companies lying wholly within the Free State were amalgamated into one concern.  Under the Transport Acts of 1932 and 1933 the GSR was given the right to compulsorily acquire its road competition. It’s most notable acquisition was the Irish Omnibus Company - the ancestor of Bus Éireann.

The logo on the green coaches ...
... is known colloquially as "the flying snail".

Buses also appeared in green with flying snail ...
... in different shades, it would appear.
Dublin buses also used to be adorned with the flying snail ...
... but are probably better known for wearing the CIE logo.
But we digress ...
... as the orange will feature further in tomorrow's blog.

There will be more logos to explore! 

This may well be obvious ...
... but this less so.
This one is very Irish c/w hat and shamrock ...
... although, mostly, the headgear and foliage do not appear.

Can you guess this one?
But orange and black dominate tomorrow's blog!

  Next Irish railway blog : Tues 28th April