Tuesday, 12 May 2026

(Pre) Desotination Part 3

fbb's favourite 'version' is the Good News Bible; he likes the pictures as here with Jesus' parable of The Lost Sheep.

It's  a bit like a "Where's Wally" picture!

The Good News Bible doesn't use the 'technical' term "predestination" but it would not have resolved the discussions at Friday Fellowship,

Those whom God had already chosen he also set apart to become like his Son, so that the Son would be the eldest brother in a large family. And so those whom God set apart, he called; and those he called, he put right with himself, and he shared his glory with them.

The cynical teens asked the struggling leader questions along these lines. "If God has predestined those that will go to heaven, what's the point of being good?"

Over the years, fbb formulated an answer that made sense to him!

More From L I S T**

Back in the day, bus destinations were in the form if a long band of translucent cloth (later plastic) printed with white lettering on a black background. The bus conductor would turn little handles to set the various sections of the blinds.

For some there was also a mini gearbox to turn the various drive shafts; for others the mechanism was simple but threefold for three sections of screen.
Conductors had to be quite agile to reach, as below with just one handle high up above the engine.
It was quite a big job. London's tradition RT bus had front ...
... rear and side screens.
Largely because of one man operation, nowadays you only get a front blind either with electric motors doing the winding: or maybe more than one display but fully electronic.


But there was a joy in seeing the conductor winding steadily through a long blind; although not many were quite as long as this!
So here follows an extra quiz at no extra charge. Can readers identify which operator might be scrolling these blinds. The answers will be duly revealed tomorrow!

Which operator us this?
The company reduced its blind display many years before such economies became common.

WARNING : Many of these pictures were not given a detailed caption on-line, so fbb has had to guess.  Apologies if the old and chubby one has got it wrong, again!

This pre-PTE municipal operator.
fbb thinks it is this one ...
... but it could be this one.
... which, uniquely (?), had some red on white blinds - seemingly more illegible than white on black!

Another pre-PTE municipality.
Some delightful y*rksh*r* names there. The buses had two number blinds separated by a black panel ...
... which needed some clever thinking when the PTE added 100 to the route numbers. What did not happen was a change to three track number blinds as incorrectly (?) shown on this preserved daimler.

And not far away an operator with two locality blind apertures ...
... although for most routes only one was used.

Now we go overseas.
One destination may be a clue for those that remember the city's troubled past.
One destination might confuse, however!

And another long-gone municipality.
North Station is a clue, but it is not called that nowadays.
Currently this town's buses are branded as below.

This has been a fascinating excursion into the minutiae of bus operation. There may be a few more tomorrow!

L I S T? 
The Local Itineribus Society Team

  More from L I S T blog : Weds 13th May  

7 comments:

  1. To be strictly accurate, especially for those unfamiliar with the technology, blind linens are white, so it is the black background that is printed on, not the letters themselves.

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  2. Without giving away too much of a clue on the last one...

    It's now a city, not a town. The blind shown is the former municipal operator, whereas the route set shown is the now dominant operator. The Shuttles branding has been abandoned with routes now in the 51-57 series now. And it is my home city of the last 10 years :-)

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  3. Andrew Kleissner12 May 2026 at 08:05

    Older locals (and taxi drivers) still refer to it as the "North" station. That's helpful as it avoids confusion with the "Town" station - which used to have another, less confusing, name!

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  4. It does raise an interesting point though. If Paul's thinking re predestination is correct and God has already chosen those who will believe, then what is the point of the church's evangelistic efforts?
    Surely we are not trying to change his mind?

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  5. All this talk of predestination reminds me of the old Limerick:
    There once was a man who said "Damn
    It would appear that I am
    A being that moves
    In predestinate grooves
    Not a car or a bus, but a tram".

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  6. Andrew Kleissner12 May 2026 at 12:35

    Although even trams had their points! (And hence a variety of possible destinations).

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  7. The one you're not sure of is most definitely Birkenhead. Wallasey never ventured to most of those destinations.

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