Friday, 9 January 2026

Underground, Overground Glasgow Version

It Began With This

It was an fbb puzzle picture showing the crane hoist once used to lift stock off the rails and into the depot of the Glasgow Underground, now usually referred to as "The Subway". When fbb went a courting the future Mrs fbb, whose home was Glasgow, trains did indeed look like this.

Originally, they looked like this, ...

... seen below being admired by Glasgow glitterati, possibly as the service was launched. 

Later the cars had power doors, but, when fbb first started visiting, everything was tired and very gloomy ...

... and smelly!

The depot was on Broomloan Road, just round the corner from Govan Subway station which once looked like this.
In fact, Mrs fbb-to-be was amazed that anyone would willingly want to take a ride! But a youthful fbb was made of sterner stuff and plunged happily into the unwelcoming and toil-worn depths on several occasions.

The depot itself had no rail connection with the gloomy tracks and below we see a car arriving at shed level.

There was a shunting loco to move the stock around the depot ...

... but, as far as fbb knows, no depot tracks were electrified.

Here is the exterior of the depot.

Then along came Stratclyde PTE and a massive upgrade. The most obvious feature of the upgrade was shiny new trains ...

... in an orange livery which the PTE called "Strathclyde Red". Stations were progressively rebuilt and improved with lifts and escalators, brighter lighting, ticket gates and ticket machines, all the paraphernalia of a modern high capacity Metro system - but still built small. There was no upgrade to the diminutive size of the system which remained just a "circle" of double narrow gauge track.

Here, for example, is the present Govan Station.

Some dramatic change, not immediately obvious to the typical passenger were those that happened to the Broomloan depot.

It was rebuilt and connected by rail to the circular below ground tracks!

The connection can be seen curving in a cutting from the top right of the above aerial view.

Today's new trains...

... are longer!

So a new new depot was needed. Here it is with the blue/grey roof next to the old new depot.

The old old depot has been demolished (shame!) although it still materialises c/o Google Streetview.
Here is a simple track plan which explains the principle of the rail connected train park and maintenance shed.
But how, we hear you cry, have the PTE builders and engineers been able to squeeze a new depot with a "tail" into the close packed streets of Govan?

For that fascinating tale, and theo reason for its tail, you will have to "tune in" to tomorrow's blog.

Here is a clue!

More tomorrow.

Meanwhile At Peterville  ...

... something is happening!
But what? It is certainly overground not underrground; but why yellow?

Also more tomorrow - possibly!

Big Numbers 

YouTube creators always seem anxious to get you to "like" their videos and to "subscribe". This is because the author of the video makes money from advertising on their often substantial productions. The more who "like" and "subscribe", the more they will watch and thus the advertisers will record more viewers and pay more money.

The same principle applies to "followers" on a blog.

fbb has never been desirous of corrupting his blogging muse; so will not taint his "art" with commercial considerations. He is also very well aware that the concept of "page reads" can also be corrupted by "bots", voracious electronic gobblers that suck in stuff from the interwebnet and use it to feed the even more voracious data warehouses essential for current non-AI craze.

But, at some time yesterday, fbb's all-time page reads clicked through ..

6,000,000

... six million!

Not at all bad for an old bloke with a strange sense of humour and a collection of OO tank wagons!

 Next Underground Overground blog : Sat 10 Jan 

Thursday, 8 January 2026

Underground, Overground and No Wombles!

The Tale Of The Shepherds

It was very much Overgound but it is now Underground.

The Central London Railway claimss to be the very first "proper" Underground line in the world by which is meant and line that is still operational. We now call it the Central Line. It ran from Bank to Shepherds Bush and was later extended to start at Liverpool Street.

At its western end there were two extensions.

The first was just one stop to Wood Lane, followed by a more significant push to Ealing. Here are the relevant dates.
There was a depot immediately north of the Shepherds Bush terminus so when the need for a one-stop extension came the company just built a loop round the depot ...
... and plonked a station, called Wood Lane, on the top left of the loop. It was on a curve as seen here much much later.
Why 1908? White City is why!
In 1908 land to the west of Wood Lane was the site of a big "Exhibition" with most of the temporary building covered with white plaster - hence the nickname which stuck. There was a huge pedestrian overbridge and walkway to the exhibition entrance from Wood Lane station ...
... also in white.

Exhibitions on the site continued until 1914.

But there was a problem in 1903. The Central London Railway replaced its loco hauled trains ...
... with multiple unit trains in concept similar to today's stock. The coaches had multiple doors and needed a longer platform. But a junction for the depot sidings was in the way. So they built a pivoted moving chunk of platform.
Here is a terminating train with the platform having done it sliding for the siding job.
Or was it going straight on?

But the 1920 extension to Ealing created some more problems.  Instead of just a simple station on the loop, the set-up was now needed for through trains.

Trains departed from Shepherds Bush running conventionally on the left hand line then they dropped under the eastbound tracks via the so-called Caxton Curve, named after a road just west of Shepherds Bush Station.
It is the sharpest "corner" on the Underground.
But now trains were running on the right of the depot and would continue north on the wrong side of the double track.

So, cleverly, after leaving the depot, the track swapped over ...
... and left hand running is restored. 

Some who think they know all about railways in the UK can be caught out as they wait on the wrong platforms at Wood Lane and risk being whisked off in the wrong direction.

Another problem is that the original platforms were on the loop and thus useless for through running to Ealing. This diagram shows what had to be done.
So it was that in 1920 the "loop" platforms closed and were replaced by straight platforms. The loop line was also closed and replaced with a link from the north into the depot, seen below looking south.
The westbound line to Ealing and beyond is on the left of the picture and the line to central London is on the right, The depot link is, guess where, in the middle.

With the lack of exhibitions to serve, the whole station closed in 1947 and remained so until the new Wood Lane, a little further north, opened in 2008 ...
... to offer potential interchange with  White City on the line to Hammersmith.

By now, you are thoroughly confused but this Carto map of the area today might nelp!
... and an enlargement is even better!

But the biggest change to the area came with the opening of the huge (even huger than huge) Shepherds Bush Westfield Centre, retail therapy at its best worst!. The depot was rebuilt as simple sidings and hidden under the shopping centre.

It is the only traditional Underground depot that is under the ground. The Waterloo and City depot always was underground, but that doesn't count as it was built by The Southern Railway! Its annexing by the Underground is a relatively recent development.

The link to the modem sidings at Wood Lane is also now underground.

Of course the old depot was a real depot with repair shops, being the only one on the Central London Railway. Later extensions out east took such work to a new site at Newbury Park.

Here are the original train sheds at Wood Lane (north is on the left) ...

... and the ancillary buildings slightly further north and adjacent to the original Wood Lane platforms.
Those two still stand, sitting somewhat incongruously beside a very modern bus station!
The old road entrance to the depot is still there at  northern end of the aforementioned Caxton Road ...
... but all that exists beyond the big gates is a lower level of the southern walkway alongside the thrill-a-minutes shopping centre.
It is all rather boring compared with what was visible before!
Such is progress!

Isn't it?

Underground Overgound - time for an irrelevant song!!

 Next Underground Overground blog : Friday 9th Jan 

Wednesday, 7 January 2026

Moving Ahead : Please Tell!

First Bus Founders - Maybe Fails?

Certainly Roger French thinks so! By way of explanation, here is a chunk of a First bus route map (still available on-line - of course) from not that long ago.
With very few exceptions (e.g. London Buses 81) First Bus ran everything in and around Slough. And look at the network now!
So, for completeness, here is the Langley area enlarged and shown more correctly than on previous blogs. Earlier, fbb never found the above most recent version of First's network map! The 7 (BLUE) has become 7 and 7X and the 4 (ORANGE) has become A4.

The Joys Of Privatisation

Other on-line maps are available; An out of date (2014) monstrosity is from Slough and Windsor Council ...
... which shows that the 75/76 (now 7/7X) then ran via Langley Road and the 58 (now 3) then ran via Trelawney Avenue - the opposite of today's routes. Consistency is always to be applauded!

A more recent Council map is more up to date but has not been changed to show the 458.
Of course you could also have a full and up-to-date Carousel map ...
... showing three routes in the Langley area. In addition to the new 458, there is the long standing tendered  585 from Hedgerley ...
... and a branch of the 103, formerly branded Chiltern Hundreds ...
... from High Wycombe; with the other branch to Windsor.

There is an  up-to-date Thames Valley (i.e. Reading Buses) map ...
... which includes the London 702, Heathrow 703 ...
...  the Heathrow 704 ...
... and a Slough local plus Heathrow add-on service 5.

It is all a right mess!

Back To The 458
Roger French has already done a "First Day" and he noted that roadside publicity was excellent for the 458 - except at Uxbridge ...
... where there wasn't any! There was no timetable, not even a departure list and no 458 on the bus stop flag. It is this quality of service which the PTE mega mayors (Steve Rotherham, Tracy Brabin and Andy Burnham etc) are so keen to spread to their areas as they strive to "be like London Transport".

We have already met the 458 map and the timetable is delightfully simple with a tidy 30 minute frequency Monday to Saturday but, as yet, no Sunday service.
We can compare this with First Bus service 3 on-line ...
... brimming with confusion over Christmas! The on-line timetable itself is, as is usual with First, awful beyond measure. This was for 1st January when, presumably, a Sunday service was in operation.
Sorry this is too small to enjoy the detail, but it really wasn't worth the effort to do anything better with what First offers its potential customers. An alternative and much better First timetable did materialise on-line ...
... but it's source was unclear.

Whatever the source the above, it shows that First only runs every 30 minutes on Mondays to Fridays; Saturdays is hourly as well as Sundays. Carousel runs every half hour on Saturdays.

Carousel was enthusiastic and informative in its pre-launch publicity ...
... with clear understandable general information about the new route. It was written in English rather than bus operator new-speak!

But the highlight was racks of timetable leaflets on the buses. Yes, printed material to take home and peruse at you leisure without needing a device or a good wifi signal.
Also available is a timetable booklet for the Slough area ...
It is called "Marketing", and it is what good businesses do to promote their product.

First Bus does nothing to promote its product Because, as its managers say ..

IT'S ALL ON-LINE

Yesterday, Roger |French published his take in Carousels' 458 which included a bit more background to the competitive scene in and around Slough. His headline refers to First's departure from Southampton and Cornwall - but to that you can add Hereford, Northampton, East Lothian, the Scottish Borders area and most of the former Alexander Midland territory.

What a way to run a bus company!

There is an alternative, and it is not franchising and it is not nationalisation.

It is called "working together".

Was it not the great John Betjeman who wrote a celebrated poem about buses in Slough?**

Come, networked bus, and fall on Slough
It isn't fit for travel now,
It's just a mess; you don't know how
To get about!

Sort out the mess they call a town —
Passengers who wear a frown
Poor information gets them down
They rave and shout!

Then there's no published bus's fares
They do not adverise their wares
The cost of travel really scares
And leads to tears,

One simple thing that can be done
Instead if three let's just have one
A single bus firm would be fun
Pin back your ears.

They've done the job up Leicester way
One map, one network, shout hooray
Bright green buses; a fume free day.
They cut the blether!

Come, friendly "bombs", and fall on Slough
It's time for action here and now.
To franchising we need not bow;
Just work together.

But they will need to get rid of the worst of First, first!

** No it wasn't. His poem, which opens with the line "Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough" was a heart-felt tirade against the poor quality industrialisation of what was once a quiet market town.

This 'pastiche' is penned, in Betjeman style, by this blog's resident producer of poignant poesy (or possibly pathetic pseudo-poetic prattle!).

A big thanks to Uncle Roger for extra information as observed in real time on Monday.

 Next Back to the Bush blog : Thurs 8 Jan