tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post1449702535342702462..comments2024-03-25T22:17:35.616+00:00Comments on Public Transport Experience: The Travesty of Timetable Technologyfatbusblokehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06833340546527596517noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-87734331479349041992024-02-26T07:47:26.684+00:002024-02-26T07:47:26.684+00:00Technology, entertainment, lifestyle, and business...Technology, entertainment, lifestyle, and business are all expertly woven together on <a href="http://vyvymannews.com" rel="nofollow">vyvymanga</a>, an incredibly flexible and comprehensive online hub.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-57625730966537712682016-03-25T15:16:38.503+00:002016-03-25T15:16:38.503+00:00Though I don't like it, I can understand this ...Though I don't like it, I can understand this wish to save money and not print paper timetables..... but there is no excuse for not providing the equivalent old fashioned "panel" timetables as PDF documents on line for the SIGNIFICANT group of users who still wish to have use of a full and proper timetable presented in this format.. It costs nothing. People who like to plan their trips themselves should be able to obtain the full information to do so without being forced to use clanky journey planning software which still, very often, produces very much less than optimum plans, as FBB and others often highlight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-39770017747953988112016-03-24T09:53:19.269+00:002016-03-24T09:53:19.269+00:00Bloody hell.....The whole point of Megabus is that...Bloody hell.....The whole point of Megabus is that its all administered by web to keep costs down so you can enjoy your £1 fares. <br /><br />Normal people don't want to pay more just so a few enthusiasts can horde loads of 'collectible' paper leaflets. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-18122133775131193102016-03-24T09:47:19.346+00:002016-03-24T09:47:19.346+00:00"Strong anecdotal evidence" - what you m..."Strong anecdotal evidence" - what you mean by this is "I reckon this and I reckon other people reckon this too" - this is not evidence. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-87758832374817327042016-03-24T09:18:56.009+00:002016-03-24T09:18:56.009+00:00...but Megabuses are on Traveline and some at leas......but Megabuses are on Traveline and some at least of the regional Traveline sites (Ihaven'tt ried all) will allow you to print off a complete timetable for the route.Dennis Dratnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-70649859333203093652016-03-24T08:15:18.771+00:002016-03-24T08:15:18.771+00:00There are no public timetables as such for megabus...There are no public timetables as such for megabus Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-30588644500173285242016-03-24T07:00:37.177+00:002016-03-24T07:00:37.177+00:00Surely one solution is to do what our local compan...Surely one solution is to do what our local company (Ipswich buses) does: which is to produce printed timetable leaflets and then have them available on the websites as pdf files? I realise that isn't the same as a Journey Planner app, but it is at least simple. Many/all rail companies do the same (Scotrail is a case in point) although they don't alwayus make it easy to find them!Andrew Kleissnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-68591529330518316332016-03-23T20:15:28.000+00:002016-03-23T20:15:28.000+00:00I have just trawled through the Megabus website tr...I have just trawled through the Megabus website trying to find some timetables with no joy. <br /><br />Individual journey enquiries were possible but I had no success finding timetablers listing all services on a particular route. Stagecoach website is not much better. <br /><br />Both make First KLernow's printed timetable book / website look positively good! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-38337952419127893852016-03-23T18:49:09.590+00:002016-03-23T18:49:09.590+00:00I have recently been making a large number of bus ...I have recently been making a large number of bus journeys in parts of the country that are unfamiliar to me and relying on both electronic and printed timetables (where available). I've found that the various websites and apps I've used are just about adequate for planning purposes the printed material (especially the few area-wide books I've encountered) has been much more useful and has allowed me to change my plans advantageously when I've stumbled across alternatives that the electronic systems just didn't offer. In this context three cheers to Devon County Council for their timetable books.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14502754753792780008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-56069986952960645472016-03-23T11:44:02.316+00:002016-03-23T11:44:02.316+00:00Quite agree with all these comments!
We still nee...Quite agree with all these comments!<br /><br />We still need to supply information via printed material for some time longer, as there are still passengers who either cannot access the web or simply don't understand how to! Whilst the latter group will wither away as time goes along, they are still a substantial minority, and we must include them.<br /><br />My worry is that companies (and LTA's) see making information on the web only as a way to save money. My company makes both available, and comments from passengers at open events is always "thank goodness you still produce a booklet". Yes, there is a cost, and yes it needs updating at appropriate times, but we still need to do it.<br /><br />Stagecoach seem to (generally) manage this well (although I suspect that there is an element of hand-washing going on in Sheffield at present.<br />I just wish that LTA's produced printed maps! It's not much to ask!!greenline727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-86977111584933075692016-03-23T08:25:23.621+00:002016-03-23T08:25:23.621+00:00Surely the answer is you have to do all of it?
De...Surely the answer is you have to do all of it?<br /><br />Despite fbb's anecdotal evidence, there is a huge weight of expectation from customers and potential customers to be able to find out information via apps and websites, and even if the technology doesn't always handle this perfectly it simply isn't an option to ignore this demand. Instead we must do all we can to embrace this need and improve and refine the systems to cope.<br /><br />However, while the demand for printed information has declined fairly sharply in recent years, there are still many who rely on a book or a leaflet (or both) to plan their travel and we ignore this audience at our peril!<br /><br />My view is we have to back both horses, and i agree with the post above that printed information has to be as widely available as possible.<br /><br />And thanks for the kind comments about the book. It has been very well received - we struggled to keep up with demand the week it came out - but it's far from perfect still and we have plenty of ideas to improve our printed offer further.<br /><br />Phil Stockleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06317690157738868544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-65092233668218725582016-03-23T08:19:33.360+00:002016-03-23T08:19:33.360+00:00The forgotten commercial bonus of a comprehensive ...The forgotten commercial bonus of a comprehensive timetable book is that is makes additional non-standard journeys possible. Anon's point is, of course valid, but with "the book" in the top drawer at home, extra bus trips are easy.<br />To borrow a phrase from elsewhere, "every little helps"!!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-1684359680825026382016-03-23T08:07:33.004+00:002016-03-23T08:07:33.004+00:00Controversal I know, but other than from bus bashe...Controversal I know, but other than from bus bashers, publicity collectors or bus company types I see no great clamour for timetable books. <br /><br />Companies would be better placed actually creating publicity and putting it somewhere easy to get. Not from behind a desk at a library where you have to ask or in a locked room only open Mon to Fri 9-2.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com