tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post757066320019403299..comments2024-03-25T22:17:35.616+00:00Comments on Public Transport Experience: It's All Happening (more from Saturday 5th)fatbusblokehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06833340546527596517noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-75040115994402559712014-07-13T19:48:49.876+01:002014-07-13T19:48:49.876+01:00Exeter's bus station is a little complicated, ...Exeter's bus station is a little complicated, it doesn't need as big a site as it currently has in total (i.e: including both upper & lower portions) but it needs a bigger site than it is currently using as a bus station (i.e: the upper half). The top half struggles to cope with all the services and you often find the buses can't get on the proper stand as there is nowhere to drop off on arrival & nowhere to leave a bus if you have a bit of layover. For this to work it appears to require a new depot for Stagecoach & a new coach park near the centre for visiting coaches to park in as well as the new bus station which seems a lot of extra resource to get anything close to what they have and when has a council ever bothered to ensure they do everything properly when they see a development opportunity that might entail damaging the bus infrastructure. It would seem the easiest solution would be to use the lower (the coach station) portion as a new bus station (the site would be big enough to offer more stands & parking particularly if Stagecoach opened their depot for coach parking during the day) whilst offering the chance to build a shopping centre over at least part of the site across the upper half.<br /><br />There appear to be a spate of new bus station most of which appear to be pretty useless for what they have been designed for, Nottinghamshire's new ones appear pretty good & both West Yorkshire & Greater Manchester also appear to have decent standard layouts. Leicester is about to redevelop Haymarket Bus Station which will convert it from a run-through to an end-on bus station, unfortunately there isn't really enough room for a proper end-on bus station so the design currently looks like it will offer almost no queueing room for passengers waiting for buses as the only way they can provide room for the buses to manoeuvre (though no real parking/layover space). The design does have more stands than the current bus station (almost double) but the only way they can fit it in is by slewing the road and so removing most of the on-road stops on the top of Charles Street & is also predicated on closing the Haymarket on-road stops & pedestrianizing that road so despite all the fuss made about the extra stands there won't really be more stops and stop congestion in those areas is already a problem. Every time Leicester City Council redevelops any of the city centre roads all the succeed in doing is reducing the number of stops & parking spots for buses, a recent redevelopment of Humberstone Gate has a dreadful effect in this regard.dwarfer1979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-89067602176487830812014-07-13T10:16:59.690+01:002014-07-13T10:16:59.690+01:00When they went to put the second shopping centre i...When they went to put the second shopping centre into Maidstone it was initially supposed to retain a through road for buses that would have provided a 'direct' link to the East station on the line of an existing road. When this was queried the blunt answer was that the scheme couldn't afford to fund it and it wouldn't go ahead. With the competition between towns in the area to attract this and similar developments nothing must get in the way. Buses would have to take the longer route around the outside.<br /><br />In Sittingbourne the council want buses out of the High Street once again as part of an ongoing plan to rebuild etc the centre but also expect investment in new buses, increased frequency and green technology. Its the operators being unhelpful when it doesn't happen on demand!Clive Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02059026405966912480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-76267705486276818862014-07-13T09:55:56.085+01:002014-07-13T09:55:56.085+01:00Similar things look to be afoot in Winchester, whe...Similar things look to be afoot in Winchester, where the developers proposed to 'redevelop' the bus station area, as part of the Silverhill complex, replacing the bus station with a smaller, more remote facility.<br /><br />Now, it would seem they want to maximise the number of shops and completely drop the idea of a replacement bus station from their scheme. Wintonians are not happy !<br /><br />http://www.hampshirechronicle.co.uk/news/indepth/silverhill/11334092.Winchester_civic_chiefs_allow_new_Silver_Hill_plans_to_be_submitted/Petras409https://www.blogger.com/profile/04036674245734936601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-79215153715725330552014-07-13T09:44:25.694+01:002014-07-13T09:44:25.694+01:00Seems like the standard answer to overcome lack of...Seems like the standard answer to overcome lack of economic growth that most Councils seem to have had in recent years. Build a new shopping centre or revamp/extend the existing one. This will draw in more people to spend money in the money, create jobs etc. The town will appear more vibrant and more will follow. Complete the package by pedestrianising the streets to permit more pavements cafe's and street entertainment. This will bring in more people from further afield (at the expense of other towns, who will then want to do the same). This means we have to provide more car parking and road space etc.The last priority will be the buses on the basis that the passengers will mostly be local and still come here anyway.<br /><br />This will all be cooked up by the town centre management and economic development people with political support and touted as the answer to the town's problems etc.<br /><br />As the article seems to say the last priority or concern will be buses and anyone raising concerns will be accused of being unhelpful and holding back the prosperity of the town!!Clive Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02059026405966912480noreply@blogger.com