tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post6743147468131717440..comments2024-03-29T08:14:43.839+00:00Comments on Public Transport Experience: Where the Heyl is Helford? [1]fatbusblokehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06833340546527596517noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-13921678309213741152014-08-07T07:10:13.762+01:002014-08-07T07:10:13.762+01:00Anon 21:29 . . . . I'm not suggesting that jou...Anon 21:29 . . . . I'm not suggesting that journeys should necessarily be withdrawn because passenger loadings are minimal per se. My point is that (and we all know of them) some trips simply don't carry any "real" passengers from one week to the next, and these should be withdrawn.<br />If your point about providing a "confidence" trip is germane, then such a trip must carry at least occasional passengers to be included in the overall service offered and costed accordingly. Any commercial operator (and increasingly we are seeing councils act in a similar manner) will provide trips that will take no cash fares, but if return ticket holders use the journey in sufficient numbers the bus will continue to run.<br />No passengers . . . . . no bus! Simples!!greenline727https://www.blogger.com/profile/03033268278026535109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-25170992460073577312014-08-07T06:47:22.802+01:002014-08-07T06:47:22.802+01:00Is that because it is known that people who live i...Is that because it is known that people who live in villages go to bed early?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-76337242227170460202014-08-06T21:29:14.601+01:002014-08-06T21:29:14.601+01:00I think there's a danger in focussing too clos...I think there's a danger in focussing too closely on journeys which carry the most people and withdrawing those which carry fewer - for example if one was to take that logic to its fullest extent there would be no journeys in the reverse peak direction and some journeys would be truncated to the point at which the last, say, three people were on board, and in both cases the decline then starts. There is also the concept that running a comprehensive service gives passengers at any part of the day the confidence to use the service as they know they won't be left behind when they want to return - if a few evening journeys run empty but providing them ensures that the daytime journeys are used by a higher percentage of people that's worth doing. Also, although working hours don't now always match the traditional 9-5 I always judge a bus timetable on two key elements - journeys before 9am and after 5pm and the last bus being after 11pm. The latter relates more to urban service of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-5864793573883394892014-08-06T11:02:56.409+01:002014-08-06T11:02:56.409+01:00And why are we seeing an increase in standardising...And why are we seeing an increase in standardising Monday to Saturday tendered timetables. Nottinghamshire County Council have just revised their tendered network so many Saturday routes start at 6am like weekdays. Why? When there isn't the demand on Weekdays never mind Saturdays!Mitch in Nottsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-4708334249439853462014-08-06T09:06:38.945+01:002014-08-06T09:06:38.945+01:00Unfortunately I think many councils will simply be...Unfortunately I think many councils will simply be more interested in the financial saving they can make, and not in redirecting that money elsewhere!Clive Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02059026405966912480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-426497009775454102014-08-06T07:07:36.336+01:002014-08-06T07:07:36.336+01:00At the risk of spoiling our rotund investigator...At the risk of spoiling our rotund investigator's next issue . . . . this story so far is why rural bus services are in decline. There just ain't no passengers!<br /><br />One starts to understand the reluctance of councils to support such journeys, and maybe we in the industry should be pointing out such journeys upon re-tendering.<br /><br />Yes, we may well lose work in the short term, but if it means that council funding is directed towards trips that actually DO carry a few passengers (and thereby protect such trips/routes) . . . isn't that a "good thing?".<br /><br />Comments eagerly awaited!!greenline727https://www.blogger.com/profile/03033268278026535109noreply@blogger.com