tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post5659070541270023546..comments2024-03-25T22:17:35.616+00:00Comments on Public Transport Experience: GoTimetable Seaton (1)fatbusblokehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06833340546527596517noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-67343754189376207912016-04-07T16:35:55.323+01:002016-04-07T16:35:55.323+01:00I am sure that people are not that fussed about wh...I am sure that people are not that fussed about who produces what as long as they have the information. However I am somewhat amazed at the lack of investment in communication by bus companies. Surely it makes sense to provide information as without it you can't grow the market. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-51294444887600821122016-04-07T07:26:35.552+01:002016-04-07T07:26:35.552+01:00Thank you all above for the comments. We are "...Thank you all above for the comments. We are "collecting" all responses and will continue to do so when the app "goes live".<br /><br />The people whjo I talk to in Seaton would NEVER contemplate making a two-leg journey. Since the effective withdrawal of the X53, folk will now pay for a taxi to the hospital rather than using the 52A and changing. The two-leg journey is slower but very reliable and the change is easy (just cross the road).<br /><br />Pay for a taxi rather than have two free reliably bus rides? Crazy but truefatbusblokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06833340546527596517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-48797672050403451312016-04-06T17:26:08.139+01:002016-04-06T17:26:08.139+01:00Exactly - that paragraph was the dodgiest in the p...Exactly - that paragraph was the dodgiest in the post. My teachers would have written "PROOF?" all over a statement such as "Most people" (or "the majority of bus users" as was the case here). Do they? I usually run a journey on the journey planner and then use 'proper' timetables to adjust the results. <br /><br />""The Industry" has gone potty on journey planning but most passengers will only make simple one-leg journeys." - Really? Do passengers in Seaton never have to change buses? <br /><br />""The Industry" has decided than there is no demand for a printed book any more". - Rubbish. Most operators I know continue to print leaflets at the very least as it is a way of advertising their own services. Councils increasingly have a balancing act between providing free publicity for lazy operators/a combined timetable guide for the convenience of actual & potential passengers and actually providing services to go in them. I'd rather have a bus with three return journeys that are useful but poorly publicised to a bus with one return journey that I know everything about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-35580649709065429272016-04-06T17:20:53.564+01:002016-04-06T17:20:53.564+01:00"Errors" of interpretation are always di..."Errors" of interpretation are always difficult ones to crack. In some cases these are local landmarks that carry on being referred to as they were long after they have closed. Refer to them by a new name, and locals may have trouble working out where you mean, or it cannot be cross-referenced. You call it "Wheelwrights Inn", Stagecoach call it "The Museum." Same place? Different place? How does your app, help the visitor (me), identify where the bus stop is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-65810513963451783132016-04-06T16:29:39.729+01:002016-04-06T16:29:39.729+01:00Who decreed that "the industry" has deci...Who decreed that "the industry" has decided there is no demand for timetable books any more? Several operators have brought timetable books back in recent years - Buses of Somerset, First Hants & Dorset, Cardiff Bus to name three. I'm aware of at least one other major operator considering producing a printed timetable book. Looks like "the industry" has yet again been unfairly castigated by this Omnibological "expert".<br /><br />I note one potentially significant flaw in your wonderful new app (I genuinely look forward to trialing it). What advantage is there for users who could make their desired journey by more than one bus route? I live at A and travel regularly to B (city centre). If I walk eight minutes one way from my front door I have 5 bus routes, if I walk seven minutes the other way I have 2 bus routes and five minutes the other way 2 more routes. I would presumably have to check 9 separate timetables to determine which way to go?<br /><br />If I travel from the city centre to hospital I have five bus routes, two reasonably high frequency, one only half hourly but direct and two around the houses but if I'm a new or occasional user I don't know which ones which until I've searched all five timetables on the app by clicking in, selecting times, scrolling, clicking out of every timetable.<br /><br />If I travel from home to the station it gets worse, 2 bus routes go direct but I could make the journey by catching 5 of the other 7 routes to the city centre and changing onto other frequent services.<br /><br />If I use your go timetable app my head might just explode with trying to work out all the possibilities. Alternatively I could use a journey planner, google transit for instance will tell me journey options within about three clicks plus give me reasonably sensible walking instructions to and from the stops.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-70074156714887271952016-04-06T15:57:14.317+01:002016-04-06T15:57:14.317+01:00There are errors of fact which can only be fixed i...There are errors of fact which can only be fixed if the creator of the root timetable (the bus operator) corrects them. I have already made two corrections to a timetable due in May which the operator had not spotted.<br /><br />Then there are errors of interpretation. The use pf "Museum" (see above) is one such. It is a four year old error and is inexcusable. But only research and the support of users can correct them.<br /><br />Because <b>GoTimetable Seaton</b> is easy to adjust we are making provision for on-going updayes, corrections and improvements.<br /><br />What may be more troublesome is encouraging users to check routinely for updates.fatbusblokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06833340546527596517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-1392588783758749152016-04-06T13:53:37.208+01:002016-04-06T13:53:37.208+01:00The issue with other apps (Google Transit, traveli...The issue with other apps (Google Transit, traveline (sw excluded),First, Stagecoach etc) is that we all know any app will have faults but it's their reluctance to do anything about those faults quickly. I for one welcome this idea and am waiting for the next installment. If there are errors and they get fixed asap then who cares. FBB's points in his blogs have been that often app errors aren't even fixed with major upgrades and are so serious they often render the app useless.Knoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-66917445816591746822016-04-06T09:40:45.864+01:002016-04-06T09:40:45.864+01:00....obviously if any faults/bugs/data issues are d.......obviously if any faults/bugs/data issues are detected on this app as its being developed you'll be ready to rip it to bits on here and start riffing about how the only thing people want is a massive timetable encyclopaedia to carry round? <br /><br />Purely for the sake of consistency? Maybe something like "Go Timetable/No timetable part 1"??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-41506987238139695052016-04-06T08:07:35.928+01:002016-04-06T08:07:35.928+01:00Ta muchly. More reveals to come.Ta muchly. More reveals to come.fatbusblokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06833340546527596517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7432323264902617108.post-21580071454219927582016-04-06T07:11:06.758+01:002016-04-06T07:11:06.758+01:00Ooh, you rotund teaser!!
Seriously, can't wai...Ooh, you rotund teaser!!<br /><br />Seriously, can't wait for the road-test, but as an Elderberry user, I will need to wait for the laptop version . . . . perhaps you'll post in the blog when it's ready?<br />{greenline727}Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com